“But if you’re from New Orleans then act like you’re from New Orleans.”
Well that was heartbreaking. I freaked out when I realized it was the Hot 8.
Some unorganized thoughts:
Another “slice of life” episode. A lot of talk about crime, mostly on the periphery like wolves at the gate. We’re just waiting to see who gets shot in a botched robbery. Never liked Sonny but I felt for him when those hooligans stole his tip jar. Loved the music as usual. Kermit and the Hot 8, Frogman over the credits. Sonny was playing “See you later alligator” by Bobby Charles, although most people will know the Bill Haley version.
Sophia is definitely suffering from depression and needs professional help. Her mother must know that her daughter is self-medicating (with beer). What’s wrong with her? Get her to a therapist ASAP. Damn, we had therapists on call at my office that we could go to at the first signs of depression. I remember going to lunch with a group of coworkers back then and almost everyone at the table admitted to taking anti-depressants. Surely her mom knows that people have to talk about their fears, their anxieties and disappointments, and some need medicine. Sophia is obviously not talking to her mom and it will not end well if this continues.
Do they have deep fried turkey outside Louisiana? Because Annie was talking about it and there was a close-up of the Chief putting his bird into the fry pot. Made me wonder if this is something peculiar to New Orleans and our area. Does Popeye’s offer fried turkey in other markets?
The rest of the world thinks it’s a Cajun thing, and the rest of the world thinks New Orleans is the capital of Cajun country. Would make sense the Chief would do it since he’s got no other choice under those living conditions.
That year we made redfish courtbouillion that we caught somewhere down in Lafitte.
Toni didn’t recognize the signs in Creighton either. Some people don’t think of mental health fixes when they’re having issues. It just doesn’t occur to them to look for that kind of help. She’s burying herself in her work, it’s how she copes, and she doesn’t know how to deal with somebody who copes differently.
Same with Delmond. He thinks all he has to do to get his dad on-track is to start liking the Indians again. Albert looks like he’s giving up, and now not even his son finding love for New Orleans can reach him.
When I saw Toni and Sofia eating Thanksgiving dinner alone, I was thinking, “jeez, that sucks.” Anybody who has found themselves in single parent land figures out real quick, when you have holidays you need to find other people to celebrate with, otherwise that empty chair and those memories of holidays gone by will drive you mad. You just don’t do it that way if you’re using your head.
Last week was the parade of the new Season 2 douchebags (the Latin asshole, the angry French chef, and motherfuckin’ Poke). This week was the dance of the dead. Dinneral, Sofia, Albert….
“The dance of the dead.” Absolutely. That puts it in order.
As far as not seeing the depression, I’m very disappointed in Toni. If she were a Christian Scientist or an uneducated person I’d understand. But come on. Certainly in her job as an attorney she’s had to refer clients to professional help.
Holidays and probably all meals are tough when there’s an empty chair there. I’ve had some sad times but thankfully haven’t had to do that yet. Single parents have my respect.
This episode drove home the subtle point that Toni isn’t the saint she appears to be. She certainly does good work for people, and she’s endlessly self-martyring, but it all stems from being unable to connect with the people who are closest to her.
Phyllis Montana LeBlanc hit a home run during every one of her scenes. They should really expand her part. She’s got the chops.
The Thanksgiving montage was lovely and revelatory and real and all the reasons I watch this show.
When I realized that Michael “So she’s enjoying penis a little bit more, is she?” Hill was playing the real Dollar Bill Jefferson, I busted out laughing. Hilarious casting.
Toni ‘isn’t the saint she appears to be’? Hmmm. That’s the kind of thing you usually say when someone’s a shyster, not when they don’t know how to cope with major depression in their loved ones. Clearly she’s torn up about it, and it’s not that she ignores it. The tough thing about kids her daughters age is most of them start sneaking out to drink beer with friends. She probably did her herself as a kid, so it’s hard to tell when a young person is in code red. She’s just doing the best she knows how, which is what most folks do in the face of circumstances. You could say that giving someone their space is the wrong thing to do- especially when you did it before and your husband took a jump off a ferry- but no one has a crystal ball to know how serious a situation is.
Beautiful and sad tonight. Here’s hoping Sophia springs back to life quickly.
Thanksgiving montages were good, but I also felt empty at the Bernette home.
I live near Toledo, Ohio, fifty miles south of Detroit. I’d guess about one in three Thanksgiving turkeys goes into the vat and is cooked in peanut oil.
After the show I saw that Osama bin Laden was shot in the head. I guess the USA didn’t quit on that deal after all.
I chuckled to see Davis and Annie sorting their CD collections. This past weekend I re-saw “Diner” which I hadn’t seen in a long time, and seeing the Davis/Annie scene reminded of the scene in Diner when Daniel Stern as the fanatical record collector was also dealing with his record collection being sorted (but differently, by Ellen Barkin as his wife who wasn’t as insane a music fan). I realized also that that film was the first time I ever heard Clarence Frogman Henry’s “Ain’t Got No Home” and then I further realized in that that was the first thing to put Barry Levinson on the map, which later helped get “Homicide: Life on the Streets” on NBC, giving attention to David Simon and getting him and David Mills in the business, that was a HUGELY important film for this group of work we all are fans of. (And it still holds up big time, nearly 30 years after it was made).
Love it, brueso. LOVE IT.
We had deep fried turkey at the gathering I attended this past year in Seattle. They had the pot outside in the rain-not an enviable task to stand out there and watch it. However, it IS as good as they say. They don’t have deep fried turkey at Popeye’s because we don’t have Popeye’s. 😦
Davis disses my man Derrick Freeman!
This episode was funny, except for Sophia, the PTA meeting and the introduction of the Dinerral Shavers thread towards the end. I can’t believe it’s been that long since we all ripped Alan Doucheman to pieces. Then again, I’m in disbelief that it’s been a decade since 2001.
@Kevin: My reaction to Oliver Thomas: “Hey, whoa, they got someone who looks just like him. It’s like his twin brother or something. That’s some awesome casting!”
Also, would love to have been a fly on the wall at Tim Robbins directing the bounce ass-shakers.
Loved the bits about jazz, and its lack of sales. How true. But still they do what they do.
Also, I think Aunt Mimi is gon’ get got.
More than tired indeed.
I’m afraid the Big Chief is going to go the way of Tootie Montana at that city council meeting… This episode was wonderful but damn, it made me so sad!
I’m always a little apprehensive before watching the show thinking to myself “ok, brace yourself: what currently compartmentalized issues is this one going to dredge up?”
This episode brought back that feeling of empty, hopeless depression that came after the weird manic energy that got us through the first 6 months to a year had completely worn off. Every day seemed like just an uphill slog. I became a recluse. If wasn’t at work, I was holed up in bed, not answering the phone (which started to ring less and less often), getting hooked of freaking soap operas. I knew I’d hit bottom when I couldn’t miss an episode of Days of Our Lives…
I eventually managed to snap out of it, (or climb in and out of it for a while…) but I think it was the hardest on the older folks who started dropping like flies around that time. I guess hey had fewer reserves to draw on, or had just lost too much, their world changed too radically to want to continue struggling in it, and so many just let go. I thought of them during and after this episode.
Also the impending sucker punch that was Dinerral Shavers’ murder made me want to cover my ears, shut my eyes and mutter nononononono!!!). Then I thought about Hellen Hill’s murder so shortly afterward; and how helpless and angry and beseiged we all felt. If it could happen to those two beautiful people, it could happen to any of us…
Thank God for the sissy bounce scene, that was great, and a much needed injection of levity.
I am glad you said that Maitri, because I had belly laughs during the Davis ‘s family segment,esp. Aunt MiMi’s interaction. Don’t we all have an eccentric southern Aunt. I did. Actually, I think I might qualify as my generation’s eccentric. LOL! I really enjoyed this episode. I was actually disappointed when it ended. I did not want to leave the world the Treme crew had created. Kudos!
Who gets “Simonized” this season? We have worried about Annie falling victim to domestic violence since last year. Sofia seems to be getting some foreshadowing early on this season. I’m going to throw out this scenario.
One of our primary characters is going to be the vicitm of endemic NO random gun violence. Person just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Both episodes so far have brought attention to this phenomenon and I seem to remember some talk that this will be a building theme throughout this season.
I am betting a long shot that Davis McClary is going to walk into crossfire or get shot is a holdup. He has a complete sense of invulnerability as barhops across the city to see bands, etc. He thinks he is immune from the city that surrounds him. Long shot I know, but it would be a huge surprise and leave a huge hole in the show, as a death should.
Davis is the Trickster. He is likely safe. But he’s so in love with Annie — and his mother!!!!!!!! even likes Annie. He’s vulnerable, now he’s got something to lose.
why of COURSE we have Popeye’s out here- there’s one in Renton!
I can hear what I take to be the Jazz Fest scene shooting inside, or rather I can hear the band and the crowd noise. From the direction I think they’re at Congo Square. Anyone inside have the deets?
Wha? Really? Well slap me silly and call me Davis. I had no idea.
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Dedra is there. She’ll hopefully write about it. I forgot it was today or I’d have gone.
Maybe the “death watch” thing is overstated and it’s actually some more minor character like LaDonna’s mom or someone.
LaDonna’s mama looks like she’s ready to check out. I know at least half a dozen elderly folks who just gave up post-K; including people who weren’t flooded.
Be interesting to do an analysis of “The Wire” to see the pattern that emerged through the various seasons. I remember in season #2 Sobotka was whacked. He had been a new, but central figure to that year’s narrative. Might be able to make predictions based on what they had done previously.
Yes, Toni has difficulty communicating with and understanding those closest to her. She’s incapable of reaching out to them. She can move the world for her clients, but with her family she’s unsure and bewildered. Perhaps her pride prevents her from reaching out to others for help (remember how embarrassed she was by Creighton’s bender last season? Not so much that he had one, but that he’d done it where their daughter and neighbors could see). She’s smart as they come, apparently has a drive to keep going where others may falter, and like Ray said above, she can’t fathom what’s going on.
I almost forgot about this show but I picked it up again yesterday. I just finished watching the second episode and man do I love everything about the series. Even though I probably miss a lot of what is going on. That’s why I checked in here last season😉
I felt really sorry for Toni and I felt like I kinda wanna blame Sofia for acting the way she does but of course that is not justifiable.
I like where my man Antoine is going, forming his own band. I was thinking for a bit that all these characters would come together, Annie playing her fiddle, Sonny on the keyboard and Delmond with his trumpet but that is just silly. I do wonder what will happen with Sonny though because he is just wandering around a bit hopelessly at the moment.
What also stood out for me was the smooth transitions from one scene or set of characters to the next. Can’t really remember they did that so frequently or noticeably as in this episode.
I love your statement Dpb, “I’m always a little apprehensive before watching the show thinking to myself “ok, brace yourself: what currently compartmentalized issues is this one going to dredge up?” ” —- That is exactly where I am at before each episode.. And last month, before I re-watched the first season, I was the same way. It actually took some coaxing for two months to be able to watch it all again. It’s exciting and it hurts and the same time.
But that is what I really love about the show. It hits home. Sometimes, hard. But it dredges up those memories from the past and like a mini therapy session, I work through it.
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