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Friday Open Thread #10: This Machine Floats

July 2, 2010

Always on my mind. How about you?

  1. July 2, 2010 12:54 pm

    Will be back in NO next Friday. For the first time since the BP Blowout Crime, since the conclusion of season 1. I’m excited, anticipatory and trepidatious all at the same time.

  2. mistlethrush1 permalink
    July 2, 2010 1:27 pm

    I think about the show a lot; it’s one of those things that comes at you in different ways at different times, revealing things that you missed in the narrative itself as well as things you miss in general. Will be in New Orleans in October and it’s not soon enough.

  3. July 2, 2010 4:08 pm

    Per my HBO on demand, there’s only a couple of weeks left for re-watch, so get them in now. Both HBO and Amazon have email notifications for when disks become available, but no word on when they’re be ready.

  4. Kevin permalink
    July 2, 2010 5:15 pm

    If you decide to do “Back of Midtown: Blogging Mad Men” this summer, may I help?

    Surely you can charm the sharkskin pants off Matt Weiner as surely as you have David Simon.

  5. liprap permalink
    July 2, 2010 7:07 pm

    Sharkskin pants? Don’t let that man go near the water!

  6. July 3, 2010 12:42 am

    I hope we can have a Treme discussion panel at Rising Tide V. How cool would that be? I know it’s being discussed so I hope it can happen.



  7. adrastosno permalink
    July 3, 2010 9:39 am

    Mad Men? If not here Kevin maybe we should launch one ourselves.

  8. July 3, 2010 10:03 am

    We watched “Thank you for smoking” last night and Darling Wife says, “Hey, look who it is!” She was talking of course about Kim Dickens (Janette) who plays the part of the divorced wife of the smooth-talking big-tobacco lobbyist. We both thought she deserves larger roles than she’s been getting in Treme and other shows/movies.



  9. July 4, 2010 11:18 am

    There are a couple of good ones out there (Basket of Kisses is excellent), but it would be fun, wouldn’t it?

  10. virgotex permalink*
    July 5, 2010 9:12 am

    I just registered for Rising Tide. First time I’ll be attending, though I’ve wanted to every other year. My decision was largely due to being involved with BOT.

  11. Fleur De Lis Gal permalink
    July 5, 2010 3:29 pm

    FYI – Amazon is now taking pre-orders for Season 1 of Treme’!!! 🙂 I just ordered it! $41.99 Must.possess!
    And I also must register for Rising Tide V!!!

  12. Dexter Johnson permalink
    July 5, 2010 4:28 pm

    for Davis McAlary

  13. July 5, 2010 9:48 pm

    “Back of Midtown – Blogging Mad Men” – LMAO. That’s a GREAT idea! I watched 12 Grams last night, spotting Melissa Leo kicking ass as Antonio Banderas’ wife.

    Tim, I’m thinking we’ll all be talking ’bout Treme anyway so we might as well make it a panel discussion. So pumped.

  14. July 5, 2010 11:59 pm

    And has anyone noticed this: I don’t think Antoine can read sheet music. When he gets the good gig with Allen Toussaint, you see his puzzled look as the band assembles in front of the sheet music. But then Toussaint says these are the original arrangements just like on the old records, which means Antoine is able to keep up. He may not know what to do with the charts, but he’s a good student of the recorded history so it works out.

    Okay, that’s just me obsessing over a minor detail, but that’s what’s on my mind tonight.



  15. July 6, 2010 6:25 am

    No, I think that’s just the sort of detail I’m looking for a I rewatch the shows. Thanks for that, because I’ll be watching that seen for his expression more than anything else. And recall the record collection at his mother’s house in the flash back in the last episode. It would also explain why he’s always scrabbling for jobs, as there’s always been a divide between ear players and those who could read music.

    It also contrasts with Delmond who is of an age to have attended NOCCA, as the children of Donald Harrison Jr., Indian family Lambreaux is most likely modeled on, where he would have received the equivalent of a “classical” training in jazz. If you dive back into the history books of New Orleans music, reader versus non-reader was as big a divide as white versus creole versus black.

  16. July 6, 2010 9:14 am

    Dang, Tim, now I’m going to have to watch them all again. I swear there have been a couple of moments when one musician or another (and I think Antoine) has been asked as criteria for a gig, “Can you read?”

  17. July 6, 2010 9:24 am

    Yeah, Kermit asks him if he can read for the Carnival ball gig. Antoine makes some funny comment about being able to read flies on paper (can’t remember the exact line).

  18. virgotex permalink*
    July 6, 2010 9:46 am

    Interesting question. It occurred to me briefly but I dismissed it based on his training with his mentor, who seemed pretty well grounded in the basics of music. But you may just be right- this may come up later. Maybe he’s dyslexic or something, and that contributes to some of his failure.

    I think Antoine’s basic arc, as we’ve noted here, and as DS has said (somewhere in a recent interview) is that he’s a workaday musician. Competent, better than many, but not as good as some. I think DS said something like he wanted to explore what life was like for the 11th best trombone player in the city. In which case, such an impairment or lack could be one small factor that renders him just a few degrees less capable than the guy in 10th place. Like athletes, these tiny factors can make huge differences in rankings.

    Good eye, Tim. I was going to rewatch the finale again before making a post but I procrastinated, then my DirecTV dvr apparently became self-aware and wiped its entire disk – I’d saved every episode too.

  19. virgotex permalink*
    July 6, 2010 9:48 am

    ooooh, make a panel, make a panel! The very possibility of such, or at least of some great informal discussion, was something that tipped my decision to come.

  20. wigatrisk permalink
    July 6, 2010 11:16 am

    Yep, it’s been hinted at in passing most of the season. The breakout solo on “Take the A Train” at the gala event was in part a challenge to the leaden bandleader, but I recall thinking it was also a way to break out of the sheet music that he had been eyeing warily up to that point.

  21. July 6, 2010 12:09 pm

    A bunch of musicians think it’s possible that Batiste can’t read music, but, most they think he is because:

    – most horn players are literate;
    – he seems to be a creole, with his name, and they are traditionally literate players;
    – he is a traditional player, and they are traditionally literate musicians.

    However, it would help explain why he’s not in the top tiers of the local musician scene.

    In view of this discussion, and that we spent a lot of the long weekend listening to Louis Armstong’s work, as July 4th is the date he picked as his birthday (since he didn’t know exactly when he was born and the baptism records of the August date didn’t show up until he had passed) — his creole mentors insisted that he learn to read music. If he hadn’t, he’d never have advanced into the greatness that was and remains Louis Armstrong.

    Love, C.

  22. Fleur De Lis Gal permalink
    July 6, 2010 1:31 pm

    I am now registered for RTV! We still need to bust on A to get her posterior to the Crescent City!

  23. July 6, 2010 5:43 pm

    My lips are sealed, but there should be updates coming soon.

  24. Andy Flynn permalink
    July 7, 2010 2:50 pm
    2002 Offbeat profile of Davis Rogan, by Bunny Matthews.

  25. July 10, 2010 4:10 pm

    More Minor Trivia: NOLA musician Paul Sanchez has appeared on the show in non-speaking parts. On the cover of his CD “Exit to Mystery Street” is a picture of his guitar the front of which has been decorated folk-art style with a fleur-de-lis and various writing. Included is the declaration, “This machine surrounds fear and forces it to surrender.” So in addition to Woody Guthrie, could Paul have been an inspiration to the “This machine floats” guitar?

    Whether or not it is, I love this CD. 😎



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