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Friday Open Thread, Week #4: Like Watching a Rat Back up a Cat

May 7, 2010

Friday means Open Thread.

Lurkers unlurk.

Ever body be nice.

The spoilers, do not bring them here.

54 Comments
  1. Exiled in New Jersey permalink
    May 7, 2010 7:24 am

    Loved seeing Glen David Andrews in Episode 4.

  2. Exiled in New Jersey permalink
    May 7, 2010 7:26 am

    Has anybody heard about Treme Bingo? Everytime a local musician appears on “Treme” you tick the appropriate box from the Jazz Festival cubes. Some of the cubes will get pretty dirty by the time it’s over – multiple musicians making multiple appearances.

  3. virgotex permalink*
    May 7, 2010 8:35 am

    very cool. If anyone does that, upload a picture when it’s finished.

  4. virgotex permalink*
    May 7, 2010 8:37 am

    I’m dense this week- it wasn’t till my third time watching the episode I noticed the World’s Smallest Bouncer was in the car with Sonny & Co on the way back from Houston.

  5. racymind permalink
    May 7, 2010 9:16 am

    Yeah… and did I see him turning down the joint as it was being passed around in the car? This guy can only be trouble.

  6. May 7, 2010 9:39 am

    As long as he kicks Sonny’s ass I’ll be happy.

  7. May 7, 2010 9:41 am

    Why was he so stiff, like he didn’t want to be there? Oh, and who did the Fuck Katrina song playing in the car? Gotta get me a copy.

  8. May 7, 2010 9:59 am

    I think he didn’t want to be sitting next to Sonny, which is pretty understandable. I think I’d be slumped up against the glass if I were him.

    Anyone want to bet he ends up working at Razzoo and that there’s a story in there somewhere? Race really hasn’t raised its ugly head yet.

  9. Exiled in New Jersey permalink
    May 7, 2010 10:03 am

    Fifth Ward Weebie

  10. May 7, 2010 10:45 am

    Turned it down, grumpily, he did.

  11. virgotex permalink*
    May 7, 2010 11:08 am

    He said he was from Victoria. I got relatives there. You guys have all the NOLA meta cred, but lookit me-I got the Victoria meta covered.

  12. adrastosno permalink
    May 7, 2010 11:10 am

    That’s mighty Victorian of you, B.

  13. May 7, 2010 11:10 am

    Funny how a seemingly minor, impenetrable character is so fascinating. It seems he will be important to Sonny’s storyline, but ya never know with Simon & Co. Maybe he’ll help LaDonna get some isht done around here.

  14. May 7, 2010 11:12 am

    Doubly funny because before they left the guys told Sonny that Annie couldn’t come because there was barely room for three guys and gear in the tiny car.

  15. May 7, 2010 11:14 am

    The actor looks really familiar too but I can’t find him anywhere. IMDB has been pretty useless for Treme, tons of actors in the credits not listed in IMDB.

  16. May 7, 2010 11:18 am

    Thanks, Exiled! Check out this MTV guy and his Treme music recaps.

  17. virgotex permalink*
    May 7, 2010 11:30 am

    Victoria factoid: they have (or did have) a severe nutria overpopulation problem there. So, I officially dub this dude an invasive nuisance species. Nothing good can come from his introduction to NOLA.

  18. May 7, 2010 11:33 am

    Hey, every year at Adrastos’s Muses party somebody shows up with some very tasty nutria sauce piquante.

    The nutria nuisance gets out of line they can go all Cormac McCarthy on his ass.

  19. May 7, 2010 2:17 pm

    Hey, it was just a guy road trip, that’s all. No you cant’ bring your girlfriend.

  20. May 7, 2010 2:17 pm

    I know, RIGHT?! I was hoping that IMDB would be a great source, but so far, pthtotptptlthth! They need to give some obsessive compulsive (affectionately) person advance access to update it as each ep is released…

  21. BR'Guy permalink
    May 7, 2010 2:22 pm

    Heh, my bet is that Tiny Bouncer will make a play on Annie, sending an already insecure and jealous Sonny into a flippin’ rage. Hope he doesn’t take it out on Annie. Got a bad feeling, though.

  22. May 7, 2010 3:01 pm

    I got a way worse feeling about everything to do with Annie once I read up on the rumor aabout who she and sonny are based on. Do Not Want.

  23. May 7, 2010 3:07 pm

    My, we’re a quiet bunch today. Now that we have mixed feelings about Davis and we’re tired of talking about Sonny, what other distasteful and disreputable character should be introduced next? How about Chris Rose, played by himself?

  24. May 7, 2010 3:11 pm

    Season 2 prediction? They completely drop the musicians-and-Indians storyline and do a whole season on shrimpers and oystermen and rig workers, including a mysterious but powerful character known only as “The Croat”.

    Sorry, man, it’s been a looooong week.

  25. The Central Scrutinizer permalink
    May 7, 2010 3:12 pm

    With Annie’s newfound recognition and contacts she is beginning to represent a level of talent and inclusion that Sonny knows he’ll never reach.

    My $.02: He knows he’ll be left behind soon and Bouncer Guy is somebody new for him to impress and/or dump on.

  26. May 7, 2010 3:30 pm

    The tip I’m fixated on is that one of the scenes in the final ep was shot at Lafayette No. 2, so I wonder who’s going to get it. (Or do they even take new arrivals there?) I’m deluding myself with the idea that maybe one of our heroes is just visiting someone else there.

  27. May 7, 2010 3:33 pm

    Hey, Ray, if he wanted to get back to drugs and such there were a lot of rumors rampant in St. Bernard when they through the gill netters out of Florida and some landed in St. Bernard that they brought some, um, other business interests with them.

    Wasn’t the Wild Man buried in No. 2? I’d have to do a re-watch but I was pretty sure you could see the bricks in the background.

  28. May 7, 2010 3:50 pm

    Counting on all your favorite people to be alive by the end of Season 1 never works. Start with Wallace and count them off…

    On the other hand, knowing that there’s a funeral in the last episode doesn’t necessarily tell you diddly either, as I learned after spending all of Season 5 of The Wire wondering who was gonna get it (and it turned out to be a “funeral” for McNulty’s be-shitted career).

    I think Simon sits at home between seasons dreaming up fake spoilers just to throw people off the scent. “Yeah! Here, leak this: there’s a funeral in the last episode.” Granted Lafayette #2 makes a poor stand-in for the pet cemetery at Lake Lawn, but you get the idea.

  29. May 7, 2010 5:35 pm

    Hey ya’ll, we’ve got another contrarian…
    http://www.tnr.com/blog/john-mcwhorter/please-treme-i-beg-you-get-over-yourself

  30. rickngentilly permalink
    May 7, 2010 7:11 pm

    matri would be very happy to send you a copy via snail mail.

    you probaby know some cool way to do it over the internet.

    either way ,hollah.

  31. rickngentilly permalink
    May 7, 2010 7:16 pm

    ray i was thinking the same thing when i watched it last night.

    today at work as i was thinking about it , i thought that it seemed like that gig didnt pay.

    add in the dope and maybe an offscreen pawn shop run and they probably needed “mr. bouncer man”s” money just to get home.

  32. rickngentilly permalink
    May 7, 2010 7:19 pm

    whoa ! razoo.

    shit mark .

    we need to start a future plot betting line.

    i’m giving that one 2:3 odds.

    might be season two but i think your on to something.

  33. rickngentilly permalink
    May 7, 2010 7:31 pm

    allright mr folse.

    i got the second betting line.

    6:7

    dj davis will run for city council as a mash up of manny chevrolet’s run for mayor and kaire johnson’s run for city council.

  34. rickngentilly permalink
    May 7, 2010 7:36 pm

    sorry if it’s messed up to reply to your own post.

    in the apple barrel part of davis’ rap was i’m a troubled man for troubled times.

    i think.

    pot for pot holes was definetly a manny type slogan.

  35. May 7, 2010 7:47 pm

    I know everybody is thinking Manny Bruno but you gotta reach a tiny bit further back:

    http://www.offbeat.com/2003/09/01/creole-everything/

    Davis Rogan ran for LA House of Representatives back in 2003, and the “pot for potholes” slogan was straight out of his campaign back then.

    Although I have to admit I am kind of hoping they sneak in one of Quentin Brown’s “NO MORE B*LLSHIT” signs.

  36. rickngentilly permalink
    May 7, 2010 10:22 pm

    damn ray. you just queered my odds.

    nice post.

    i got nothing to add .

    i bow to you sir.

  37. rickngentilly permalink
    May 7, 2010 10:27 pm

    as i cook i would love his name to be monsuier croat.

    a play on my favorite sammich.

    and yah it’s been a effed up long week.

    hope you are well sir.

  38. adrastosno permalink
    May 8, 2010 12:10 am

    Ahh, Quentin Brown. Straight up, Ray.

  39. Exiled in New Jersey permalink
    May 8, 2010 8:07 am

    I think Lambreux is thinking those bricks in the background in the funeral scene would make good temporary quarters for his tribe.

  40. May 8, 2010 9:28 am

    At some point the Kmbaya-ishness of it all needs to come apart, because that’s not New Orleans. There was a certain “we’re all in this togetherness” to the time of Season 1, but by Season 2 and they start tearing down the projects and little big man is working at Razzoo, well, I could write some story outlines in my sleep that would please old-line Simon fans.

  41. May 8, 2010 2:09 pm

    Hey MF, what happened at Razzoo?

  42. May 8, 2010 3:54 pm

    McWhorter is such a dork. A neocon, no less. Why didn’t he say something about the BP blowout and de-regulation if he wanted to rant about something connected to New Orleans.

    Also, can anyone enlighten me which Caribbean creole you speak at home when nobody’s listening?

    Love, C.

  43. May 8, 2010 3:56 pm

    How did I manage to forget that Crouch and George were at that party?

    It’s been one hell of week, of course, in every possible way.

    Love, C.

  44. May 8, 2010 4:58 pm

    WT: Read all about it here and follow the case backwards in time from there.

  45. May 8, 2010 9:14 pm

    Did anyone else notice that at the end of episode 4, Antoine is riding on a bus the lady he is sitting next to asks him if he’s traveling for business or pleasure. He says, “New Orleans, always for pleasure” which is a shoutout to the documentary of the same name. It’s also a nice contrast to The Wire season 2 (forget the episode) where one of the Greeks is asked about why he is traveling. He says, “Business. Always business.”

    Thought that was a nice touch. There are a lot more layers going on here that can be missed on the first viewing.

  46. May 8, 2010 9:22 pm

    gb, Dave Walker mentioned the doc in his weekly Explaining Treme column. (link in our blogroll)

  47. May 9, 2010 12:12 am

    Some of the SA&P members also said “always for pleasure” when they were coming out the door with Rebirth at the beginning of the first ep.

  48. May 9, 2010 7:17 am

    I knew about the “Always for Pleasure” influence before the show started because of DS interviews. I just thought the end of the show contrasted nicely with season 2 of The Wire where the Greek is asked about his travel plans.

  49. zukeeper permalink
    May 9, 2010 11:44 am

    Great blog. Delurking!
    Looking at the music lessons at the Bernette household thread – first blush, Davis and Creighton are opposing characters. Yet, they both share a great passion for their city, great frustration for her desperate condition and an ever-growing rage at those responsible. It seems their relationship is destined to change. My suspicion: now that Davis is all fired up politically, and Creighton is just realizing he may be onto something after his YouTube rant, (plus it will get him out of his bathrobe) Davis will inspire Creighton to make a political run. RIGHT?!

    Davis has no chance, despite his passion. He’s smart enough to realize this soon enough, will pitch Creighton on his idea – ep. 5 or 6. Sophie will be thrilled. Toni will be torn: husband finally out of his bathrobe, but what has Davis done now?!

  50. May 9, 2010 2:01 pm

    Maybe this has been covered elsewhere, but I just found out that John Goodman actually threw someone’s microphone into the canal? I find that really funny, because that was one of the main gripes that I’ve seen about the show, that it’s too didactic in some ways. But David Simon has been relentless about telling interviewers that exposition and explaining everything is not good storytelling. If this is true, which it appears it is, then it’s kind of similar to the “Super Omar” jump from The Wire…people said there was no way that could happen, when in fact the guy who did it in real life and actually jumped ONE STORY HIGHER was with Michael K. Williams in the scene, Donny. David Simon knows that people are going to make assumptions and pick everything apart. I just find it ironic that so many people said there was no way that someone like John Goodman would act like that in real life, when it was in fact true.

    [The scene in which the college professor played by John Goodman gets infuriated with the condescending attitude of a BBC reporter interviewing him, cusses him out, grabs the microphone from him and throws it into the Mississippi River behind him, really did happen. Only it wasn’t a college professor in real life — it was part-time New Orleans area resident John Goodman himself. Now he’s done a scene based on, well, his own bad self.]

    http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20100509/NEWS/100509614/1215/NEWS06?p=all&tc=pgall

  51. May 9, 2010 3:36 pm

    Too bad he consistently misspells Tom’s name!

    Love, C.

  52. May 11, 2010 11:20 am

    Holy Cow.

  53. samjasper permalink
    May 17, 2010 10:07 am

    Apropos of nothing but the title of this open thread: A rat backing up a cat is a line that only Simon could have written. In his book, Homicide, the detectives are going down an alley in Baltimore. They see an enormous rat. All are amazed by the sight of this gigantic rodent. They then watch it back a black and white alley cat up against a wall. He saw it happen in 1988 and retrieved it from the file cabinet that is his mind and put a line into the Treme script.

    One day I need to write a post about that Simon-brain file cabinet! He’s never seen or heard anything that he doesn’t remember and use later from what I can tell.

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