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Friday Open Thread, Week #3: it might cause some serious confusementalism

April 30, 2010

Here is your very own Friday Open Thread, in a go-cup, unsanitized for your protection.

Lurkers, come on in and let us get a look at you!

Regulars, please be even more entertaining than usual.

Remember, you do not motherfuck the spoiler policy:

No spoilers or discussion of an episode before it has aired at least once on Regular Folks’ TV.

Play nice or don’t play.

And somebody better damn well show up with some beignets.

And last but not least, fuck those motherfuckers at BP and Halliburton and Transocean and Cameron International.

  1. April 30, 2010 6:28 am

    OK, half of y’all are at Jazz Fest (and if you’re there early, be sure to check out my son’s music program, the whole Heritage School of Music, first thing in the paddock today. I can’t be there. I have to stand by to chauffeur him back to school.)

    Anyway, here’s something to kick off what may be a slow Friday: let’s try to ID all of the New Orleans musicians who’ve had speaking parts in the first three episodes. Keith Frazier of Rebirth opens the episode with his negotiations for the band, and by the end of that episode it looks like half the band is at the bar and most had at least one line.

    Who else? Kermit Ruffins is too easy so I’ll put his name out there, but who was that in the yard with him? Deb or Lisa can probably name everyone in Rebirth or Treme who had lines, but don’t be bashful. Try and beat those brass maniacs to the punch. So quick, start naming names until we’ve got them all.

  2. April 30, 2010 7:55 am

    Matt Perrine at the Old Point, saying “There’s pride on Bourbon Street”, and Deacon John echoing him afterwards.

    Sunpie Barnes with Sonny and Annie in Jackson Square, letting Sonny take off the top for Annie’s birthday present.

    Trombone Shorty with Delmond after the Dr John studio session, and echoing Perrine and Deacon John as Antoine makes his way to the Bourbon Street gig.

    Got to run, but I’m sure there are many others.

  3. April 30, 2010 10:18 am

    Hmm, Coco Robichaux, of course.
    Tom McDermott.
    Some of the members of the Treme Brass Band.
    Which real Mardi Gras Indians were there at the end of ep 3? Alli mentioned Daryl Montana.

    Allen Toussaint. Big Sam Williams of Big Sam’s Funky Nation calling Elvis Costello “Alison”. Dr John, a ‘course. Anyone recognize his session musicians?

    And this is only the first 3 episodes.

  4. April 30, 2010 10:37 am

    Where in hell are the female musicians at, by the way? There was Baby Jaye rapping over Kermit Ruffins’ “Treme Mardi Gras” in Bullets, but not a thing else other than faux-street fiddler Annie.

  5. racymind permalink
    April 30, 2010 12:06 pm

    Well… for the non-NOLA people who aren’t so familiar with the faces of musicians, I say we can count the clues indicating that there is no way in hell Davis got around to changing the sheets before his date with Desautel. He got stoned all day for one thing.

    And of course, if the sheets weren’t changed since the last sexual encounter maybe that’s a “second line” of a different sort.

  6. April 30, 2010 12:22 pm

    Sun Pie, I think.

    I’m not very good at recognizing people in real life either, as my vision is muchly impaired. Thus I don’t drive — street signs and so on too easily not seen or not able to read them. Night vision? Forget about it.

    Love, C.

  7. virgotex permalink*
    April 30, 2010 12:46 pm


  8. greg p permalink
    April 30, 2010 12:49 pm

    I’m not sure what you mean by “faux,” but Lucia Micarell has been playing violin professionally since she was a child:

  9. adrastosno permalink
    April 30, 2010 12:54 pm

    There was also Deacon John Moore who wasn’t playing himself since he was dubbed a trombonist who was Antoine’s mentor. John don’t play no horn and unless he has another house or was having domestic discord, the roof didn’t come off his house: he lives around the corner from me in the sliver by the river.

  10. virgotex permalink*
    April 30, 2010 1:04 pm

    who was the dude singing at the Spotted Cat? Did you already get the Galactic guys?

  11. April 30, 2010 2:06 pm

    Spotted Cat band was the New Orleans Jazz Vipers.

    Dr. John’s tenor player was Alonzo Bowens, who also teaches music at Lusher Middle School.

    Big Chief Monk Boudreaux was the Indian who got out of the truck before the closing Indian Red scene. The guy with the black shirt playing the bass drum is one of the Wild Magnolias but I don’t remember his name; my son and I have talked to him several times at Uptown Indian practice at Handa Wanda’s, he’s there every week. And the short guy in the back was in Tootie’s Last Suit but again I don’t remember his name (I’m not what you’d call an expert on Mardi Gras Indians).

  12. adrastosno permalink
    April 30, 2010 2:10 pm

    Oh yeah, I saw Joe Krown on keys at one of the club scenes; can’t remember which one. He’s another neighbor. A super nice guy.

  13. April 30, 2010 2:16 pm

    Joe Braun.

  14. April 30, 2010 2:16 pm

    Speaking parts, mind you.

  15. April 30, 2010 2:39 pm

    John Fohl sitting there with the others when Delmond pontificates. Jazz Vipers at the Spotted Cat (in front of window & not on right as you walk in, I noted). Annie is played by Lucia Micarelli, violin wunderkind.

    Was also happy to see Big Queen Cherice of the Guardians in the Indian Red scene.

  16. dat529 permalink
    April 30, 2010 2:47 pm

    One of the interesting things I notice often in critiques I read of the show is the way in which some things that Simon gets dead-on about New Orleans are misinterpreted to be clunky or over done. Creighton, for instance, was criticized for being too loud and too much of a mouthpiece for Simon’s views ,which would be true were it not for the fact that a lot of New Orleanians, myself included, were that loud and boisterous about the whole thing to anyone that would listen. Though I’m sure that comes off as didactic, it was true to life.

    Similarly, I’ve seen criticism saying that when the drummer in Dr. John’s band, the Lower 911, ended the discussion with Delmond in episode three by saying “there’s no place like New Orleans” Simon descends into sentimentality. Again, this would be a valid criticism were it not for the fact that plenty of people here actually do say “there’s no place like New Orleans” all the time, and especially when people criticize the city. I’m sure we’ve all heard someone say something like: “There’s no jobs here, the school system is awful, all the politicians are corrupt but there ain’t no place like New Orleans,” and that’s the end of discussion.

    So to what extent are criticisms at such things fair? I think you can make an argument either way

  17. April 30, 2010 3:23 pm

    Criticism IMHO is almost always fair, as long as it’s germane, not ad hominem, etc. Just remember that not all of us know that “there ain’t no place like New Orleans,” is said all the time, for example, so we can only come at it from our point of view. Hopefully when we learn that this is a common refrain, we can say, oh, I didn’t know that, and alter our point of view.

    It is such a tricky balance for Simon et al to create a fictional drama about a real place and time, because just because it’s true, doesn’t mean it’s drama. I’m just glad that the conversations are taking place, and that people can say, yes, people WERE that angry, and they’re STILL that angry, and here’s why.

    Most TV can’t do that, not even the news.

    My question: is the choir being preached to?

  18. brueso permalink
    April 30, 2010 4:04 pm

    I’m guessing ‘faux’ as in she isn’t actually a busker, though obviously a musician.

  19. April 30, 2010 4:24 pm

    You guess correctly, brueso.

    There are more than enough women in local music that they could have guesting, and I hope that happens as the show progresses.

  20. brueso permalink
    April 30, 2010 4:31 pm

    that’s the thing about swamps right? They’re really hard to pull yourself out of. 😉

  21. April 30, 2010 4:48 pm

    We’re still that damned mad, that didactic. How can we not, when we’ve got what’s going on right this minute going on? Not to mention even among my friends there are those that no matter how much this is laid out in perfect reportage and historical textual discourse they still come back with, “Why don’t we just get rid of this city and re-build somewhere more intelligent?”

    Love, C,

  22. April 30, 2010 5:16 pm

    Actually, one of things a friend of mine, who’s lived here off and on for a couple of years, has said about the characters in Treme is that they are actually quite tame compared to many of the New Orleans people she’s met. We are a boisterous bunch down here.

    And as for preaching to the choir, well, this isn’t starting out with a huge audience, so the choir that’s watching will most likely spread the word. like we always do our best to do. 😉

  23. racymind permalink
    April 30, 2010 5:34 pm

    Every night I go to work I interact with many NOLA refugees at the hospital, most who have no real plans to leave Houston anytime soon. They are happy enough with the occasional pilgrimage back to visit family and friends. As I watch Treme, I always think of a woman I know here who looks and acts soooo much like LaDonna. I mean really. And I’ll go with liprap and say that, if anything, the TV characters seem tame and tempered in comparison.

    (We still have to be careful about saying “Who ‘Dat” anywhere near her. No work will get done for a while)

  24. racymind permalink
    April 30, 2010 6:34 pm

    My first glimpse of the ‘Zahn’s ass gravatar.

    And I’m sure some were thinking after reading my post: “racy, try not to talk”. 🙂

  25. rickngentilly permalink
    April 30, 2010 9:04 pm

    extra credit.

    how many people can yall identify in the opening montage?

    i really want to know who the chef is.

    i think the military guy might be wendell pierce’s father in real life.

    thanks yall.

  26. April 30, 2010 11:43 pm

    Ooh, good one, Rick!

    One of the houses in that montage was identified:

    But I’m not sure about the people in the pictures.

  27. virgotex permalink*
    April 30, 2010 11:56 pm

    what a cool website, lip. Thanks for link

  28. rickngentilly permalink
    May 1, 2010 12:01 am

    dang lady.

    ive seen that church before and it’s been bugging me where it was.

    the house on canal blvd. allways caught my eye in the intro because of the cool old school decoration on the front of the house.

    it reminds me of my grandparents home with the little dogs on top of the gates of the hurricane fence and the metal screen door with an egret and palmettos incorparated in the design.

    madam you rock.

    thank you .

  29. rickngentilly permalink
    May 1, 2010 12:33 am

    army guy = amos pierce (?)

    not sure if this is the same cat in the montage.

    it’s still a great story either way.

  30. BywaterTim permalink
    May 2, 2010 9:30 am

    Well, we now have confirmation that Sonny is a junkie (see the bit of dialogue with the accordionist). This only makes me more paranoid about all the morbid speculation concerning he and Annie.

  31. doctorj2u permalink
    May 2, 2010 10:33 am

    Here is the source of one of the photos. The lady in black is Cherice Harrison-Nelson, sister of Donald Harrison Jr.

    If you have time, check out this video of her. What a thoughtful, spiritual woman!

  32. greg p permalink
    May 2, 2010 10:26 pm

    “Fuck you, You FUCKING FUCKS.”

    I ain’t gonna lie: I flat out cried.

  33. May 2, 2010 10:29 pm

    Just put up a new thread for this ep, greg

  34. rickngentilly permalink
    May 3, 2010 12:37 am

    thanks doc.

    it’s still killing me yall.

    who is the chef in the opening montage.

  35. Scott Harney permalink
    May 5, 2010 10:38 am

    Well. it was sorta the Jazz Vipers. It was Joe Braun and Jack Fine was on trumpet. The rest of the band is the current lineup rather than the Vipers as it was in 2005. I recognized the bass player but don’t recall his name. The Vieprs essentially split last year with Braun and Fine keeping the name and working with new musicians and the rest forming as the New Orleans Cottonmouth Kings (Robert Snow, John Rodli, Matt Rhody, Tom Morgan, Bruce Brackman and Charlie Fardella)

    I spotted Bruce in episode one with Treme Brass Band. He does play with them as well.

  36. Scott Harney permalink
    May 5, 2010 10:40 am

    Yeah. That’s the current layout in the revamped spotted cat.

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