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Friday Open Thread, Week #1: Drizzle Somethin’ On It

April 16, 2010

Gonna be an open thread every Friday.

Lurkers are encouraged to unlurk, regulars are encouraged to do what they do best.

Boss Lady’s Rules: No spoilers or discussion of an episode before it has aired at least once on Regular Folks’ TV.

Play nice or don’t play. Let’s mix it up, y’all.

  1. April 16, 2010 12:32 am

    Wish I could go to Vaughans

  2. wev permalink
    April 16, 2010 1:02 am

    virgotex – yeah, me too. Just about the most delightful thing I discovered this week is the absolute charm of Kermit Ruffins. I knew him a little bit through his music but he definitely lights up the screen. There are so many people seriously charming people in New Orleans although few as talented as Kermit, to be sure.

    I want to thank all of you writers for the wonderful columns this week. I love this blog.

  3. wev permalink
    April 16, 2010 2:34 am

    Can anybody tell me who is the actor who plays Robinette?

  4. April 16, 2010 8:44 am

    Thank you for the welcome!

    This is a drizzle indeed — no insight or news.

    However, npr (a/k/a in certain circles as national public rhetoric), did a All Things Considered feature on the teaching of The Wire in colleges and universities around the country. They spotlighted Middlebury College in Ct.; they didn’t mention The Wire course being taught in the Tulane English Dept. though.

    I tried to imagine this happening with Tremé …. Will it be possible to follow-up one socko home run with another? Outside of baseball, it doesn’t happen all that often! But I have hopes. If it doesn’t happen it won’t be because the team didn’t give the project every bit of itself there was to give.

    This year I’ll be getting to know Baltimore pretty well, due to a writing project residency at a closeby college — the project involves digging deeply into Baltimore’s shipping archives. Before The Wire I hardly ever thought of Baltimore. But I got more and more knocked out by it, at least until the final season. It had some high moments, but it was rushed, and introduced a slew of new characters that we didn’t know, and with so few episodes, and trying to wrap up the arcs of the characters we did know, it didn’t work so well.

    hat all this is about is that with Tremé I can’t have that experience of looking at it as virgin template.

    So the show can’t be ‘for’ someone like me. It’s for all the people who don’t anything about this city. Like with Baltimore and The Wire.

  5. April 16, 2010 8:47 am

    That should be Davi Jay.

  6. April 16, 2010 8:59 am

    Who knew Kermit could act so well? I have to confess that I watched it again last night for the 3rd time. I know. Must get life. Embarrassed at how much I missed the first two times. Can’t wait for Sunday. Thanks, y’all for this wonderful blog.

  7. April 16, 2010 9:02 am

    I think it’s hard to watch Treme with virgin template in a number of ways, but I took the opening scene of Treme as a sly joke based on viewers having knowledge of The Wire. After The Wire, it was impossible to listen to the quick, coded barter and not think of a drug deal.

  8. April 16, 2010 9:18 am

    Does anybody else have trouble with the name Robinette? I hear his name and my brain thinks “Garland”.

    Random Kermit memory: Ashley and I went to Vaughan’s the first Thursday after Kermit’s wedding. Kermit was late (not unheard of) so the crowd was just dancing, and when he came in and pushed through the crowd with his horn Ashley and both taunted him wiggling our wedding ring fingers in his face, he was all “oh, man” and had to show us his.

    Kinda ironic, now that I think about it. Folse, maybe that curse y’all put on me in the cemetery wasn’t the only tempting of fate that we did.

  9. virgotex permalink*
    April 16, 2010 9:21 am

    whoever the students are, it will be a rich text.

    Very excited it’s already been renewed. Much potential.

  10. April 16, 2010 9:24 am


    you see that “Davis Rogan’s house is not that tidy” turned up as a search term in the stats?

  11. April 16, 2010 10:28 am

    “I married a goddamn musician… ain’t no way to make that shit right.”

    Somehow I don’t see Kermit’s wife saying that…

  12. April 16, 2010 10:34 am

    Bwaha! That’s hilarious. And it’s true.

    Random Davis story: Davis was having a crawfish boil at his house (he does live in the Treme, despite what some Twittiots are trying to claim) with a bunch of friends including me and my family and David Simon and his family. After a long period of frantic Davis-style activity, mostly lots of talking and not finishing sentences, picking up kitchen implements and putting them down again, it starts to become clear that Davis has never actually done a crawfish boil before. So I start giving him advice. Then I start helping him. Then at some point I realize that I am the one doing the boil and Davis is off drinking beer with his guests (not that I minded, I like cooking). After three batches we had to go so I left him with some instructions and told him good luck. Not sure what happened after that.

    He did have hot water though, but this was April 2008.

  13. April 16, 2010 10:46 am

    Hipsters, to the tune of the Treme them. Go on, add your own verses.

    We don’t live in Treme.

    It’s Esplanade Ridge, hey.

    We live off of e-Bay.

    We’re hipsters and havin’ fun.

    We hang out on Frenchman

    We know all the jazz men

    We hang at the Dragon’s Den

    We’re hipsters and havin’ fun.

    We all where sharp toppers

    pork pies and fedoras

    we bought in the Quarter

    We’re hipsters and havin’ fun

    We never eat Subways

    Each year at Jazz Fest

    We donate for Brass Pass

    The Acrua’s so crass

    We’re hipsters and havin’ fun.

    We always drink Lucid

    Think tourists are stupid

    We say, “man, it’s all good”

    We’re hipsters and havin’ fun

  14. April 16, 2010 10:54 am

    Do the hipster! That is hilarious.

    Kermit does light up the screen. And he plays well, too, it’s not just relying on that million dollar smile. “That boy name Elvis?!” nearly sent me off the couch. There’s a lot of humor, which I appreciate. I’ve been resinging “Single Ladies” with “put some drizzle on it” for days.

  15. April 16, 2010 11:31 am

    Folse wins.

    We should have weekly prizes.

  16. April 16, 2010 11:46 am

    Saw it last night. Absolutely blown-ass-away. I’m so impressed by the execution of the pilot and the potential of this series. You know who turned me on to The Wire? Ashley Morris, that’s who. Watching this show last night I feel like a bunch of things are coming full circle. Most of all it’s given me pause to reflect on the fact that in spite of everything, all the challenges and hardships along the way, I’m glad we came back after the storm. I’m glad we made that decision. Proud, even. This show may just illustrate why I feel that way, to a national audience.

  17. April 16, 2010 12:19 pm

    I dropped some lines somehow:

    We don’t eat at Subway.
    We only do Parkway.
    Yeah, dressed, extra may’naise
    We’re hipster and havin’ fun

    Come on, don’t nobody want to play? We need more verses!

  18. K. David Cook permalink
    April 16, 2010 12:28 pm

    have you noticed how all most of the men want to do is party and the women are the serious ones?

  19. April 16, 2010 12:34 pm

    Were we saying “It’s all good,” in ’05? As old as I am, it’s all started to run together?

  20. April 16, 2010 12:36 pm

    Answered my own question. It’s been in use since ’01 according to the googles.

  21. April 16, 2010 12:52 pm

    Consider that all of the musician characters are men. I’ll presume you didn’t mean this in the gross, stereotypical sense that comes to mind.

  22. April 16, 2010 12:54 pm

    Oh, hell yes. I’m still pretty damn serious when I’m not cackling away like the Jewish strega mama I am. Women still got to be responsible. I betcha even the street musician girl they didn’t intro yet is gonna be slightly more responsible than the guy she hooks up with. If you AREN’T responsible as a woman, folks tend to think of you as a lesser being. At least, that’s been my experience. Guys can go off and wear 200 lb feathered suits in the dark and risk getting their asses shot down. Women can’t do that.

  23. April 16, 2010 12:57 pm

    How did you know I like extra mynez on my catfish poor boy when I’m at the Parkway?

    Alli, what was that one special they had, and I asked if it came with gravy, and they said no, and I asked for gravy on the side and I was the only person there who thought it was awesome?

    That’s what they drizzled on the Hubig’s: gravy and debris.

  24. K. David Cook permalink
    April 16, 2010 1:05 pm

    I get the typical stereotyping happening here among the male/female divide. Even Goodman’s character is laughable: sure, the points he makes are valid, but his daughter doesn’t even take him seriously…wonder if this is intentional.

  25. ferngrrl permalink
    April 16, 2010 1:26 pm

    Yeah, I liked him *a lot*, especially how he talks, chatted with him at the cast party before the viewing–I had no idea he was *in* it. He reminded me a little of that character, Lewis, in “Homicide”… But he was perfect in all ways in the role of Robinette–some of us would like to see more of that character because of all he represents.

  26. ferngrrl permalink
    April 16, 2010 1:32 pm

    Yep, dat’s rite.

    It is also a carry-over of one of the less-attractive “traditions” of the past and can remind me that not all that is “traditional” should be preserved or maintained in its “original” form. That applies to serving beeniw-weenie aspic at Sunday dinner but also to social roles and behaviors, too, of course. duh must be frieday

  27. ferngrrl permalink
    April 16, 2010 1:35 pm

    what if you live in a less hep-n-cool part of town? and are female hipsters called hipsteresses?

  28. April 16, 2010 1:44 pm

    When Lambreaux dances in the yellow suit to inspire Robinette’s participation in the cleanup of Poke’ bar, I wondered for a moment if Robinette said ‘yes’ because his wife was watching. He wouldn’t to look shallow and materialistic in front of her now, would he?

  29. April 16, 2010 1:58 pm

    Was it the turkey thing around Thanksgiving, with stuffing and all? Mmmmm. Now I’m hungry.

  30. alli permalink
    April 16, 2010 2:12 pm

    damn, i remember that, but i don’t remember what special it was. not thanksgiving, not cuban, not softshell crab, not anything with shrimp obviously… racking my brain here

  31. April 16, 2010 2:13 pm

    Heh, racy. You can’t be seen to be a materialist asshole at a time of crisis in front of your woman, now, can ya?

    Women are there to keep even the OPSD honest.

  32. April 16, 2010 2:49 pm

    Fried chicken poor boy.

    I don’t know how anybody wouldn’t think that roast beef gravy and debris would make that extra-wonderful.

  33. K. David Cook permalink
    April 16, 2010 3:09 pm

    oops…I forgot to mention, this was my wife’s observation.

  34. virgotex permalink*
    April 16, 2010 9:42 pm

    “We all got gigs, Delmond.
    Life is a goddamn gig.”

  35. April 17, 2010 12:01 pm

    I don’t think anyone has mentioned this yet.

    Via Oyster’s place, I found this photo from a crime scene near the French Quarter (and truly, all my best wishes for the shooting victims, all 7 of them). I guess the cops ran out of things to mark the locations of shell casings with, so they used hand-grenade drink containers. How can I look at that picture and not think of The Wire just a little?

  36. April 17, 2010 3:09 pm

    Khandi’s character (sorry, need to watch it again to get the names nailed down better) she married a not-so-successful musician…and to boot – one that’s not a little diversified. Kermit has the bbq backup. 🙂 Folks always have to eat – dancing makes them ‘hongreeee!’! 🙂

  37. April 17, 2010 3:11 pm

    Ha! He “Tom Sawyer’d” you! Hey, I’ll bet it was fun anyway! 🙂

  38. April 17, 2010 3:17 pm

    I was saying it in late 2002, when I heard a shop clerk at JAX Brewery use it… I was buying one of the last New Orleans’ Brass tees… And sadly, never made it to a game (I think they had folded about then…).
    I ended up donating that tee, my ACME tee and other clothing bits that were in good shape and some food to a co-worker’s family that was booted to Houston by the flood.

  39. April 17, 2010 3:46 pm

    Yes, because all the male prep cooks, cab drivers, police, national guard, and former prisoners appeared to lack seriousness. And the scenes of the second line and Vaughn’s included zero shots of women drinking and dancing. / sarcasm

    While you have a point in examining the personas of the main characters, be careful not to dismiss the importance of others on screen.

    And did you ever consider that such characterization might be in use intentionally to increase the appeal to the audience through reflection of current internal attitudes? IE: women view themselves as the more serious half, and men as the party animals; men lionize the party animal and respond to the more serious woman – therefore they relate more to such personification on screen?

  40. April 17, 2010 4:01 pm

    And wait a damn second, let’s look at the male leads’ seriousness meter:

    A Mardi Gras Indian chief cleaning out a flooded building in the interest of continuing an unpaid cultural tradition that takes hundreds of hours of labor to support.

    A trombone player constantly hustling to earn enough money to feed his family.

    A trumpet player giving up paying gigs and professional income at his sister’s insistence that he attempt to convince their father to stop cleaning out a flooded building.

    A university professor trying to give interviews to an unaccepting media about the real reasons for the flooding.

    A stoner radio DJ.

    So unless you consider Mardi Gras Indians and musicians as individuals not engaged in serious pursuits, I find the entire basis for this thread invalid. The whole male cast is being painted with the brush of social oversimplification at the hands of the stoner DJ character.

  41. April 17, 2010 5:04 pm

    “I married a goddamn musician… ain’t no way to make that shit right.”

    “Somehow I don’t see Kermit’s wife saying that…”

    Nor Donald Harrison’s wife.

    But we watched this in a room filled with musicians and musicians’ wives, and every one of us heartily laughed the knowing laugh at that line. Pretend you are hearing me laughing now too!

  42. April 17, 2010 5:42 pm

    Yeah, you rite. Guess it’s just the guys look a little doofier when they’re trying to change the world…but there is still something of a double standard out there. How many FEMALE stoner DJs do you know? 😉

  43. April 17, 2010 5:46 pm

    I just watched it a second time and had a few random thoughts:

    -I didn’t notice it the first time through, but in the opening second line there are several shots of people with Austin Leslie photos and signs.

    -The guy who plays that OPP captain, James DuMont, he has that “New Orleans cop accent” thing down so well I thought he was from here. Turns out he’s from LA.

    -Everybody’s complaining about having to see Steve Zahn’s ass, did nobody notice that they made it up to us by giving us an almost totally-naked rear view of Kim Dickens? (Yes I am a pig.)

    -Watching the closing funeral second line, I had a horrid thought: The Treme Brass Band’s signature hat, with the single word “TREME” across the front…how long before somebody starts selling cheap knock-off ones as souvenirs of the show? Somebody run down to Bourbon Street and check the crappy t-shirt shops.

    -I fucking love Clarke Peters so this isn’t meant as a criticism, but when he’s wearing the suit, there’s something just the tiniest bit “off”, and I can’t really put my finger on it. I feel like all those Indian calls, you can tell they’re directed toward Robinette. But when you see real Indians on the streets, they yell for the neighborhood. Even when two chiefs or two spy boys are facing each other down, they’re yelling for the benefit of the whole crowd watching. Lambreaux is chanting right to a person. Or maybe it’s just because Lambreaux is alone, and you never see Indians totally alone like that. I dunno if that’s it, but something is just the tiniest bit not real to me.

  44. April 17, 2010 6:03 pm

    Zahn has a cute ass for a dude. No complaints from me about him or Ms. Dickens. Real people walk around nekkid at home. Especially where it’s hot.

    I want to see more from Albert’s son. He came off sort of wooden to me, as opposed to the daughter, who I thought was wonderful. The son appears to have a pretty large arc, so I’m looking forward to seeing that character stretch out some.

    Appears LaDonna is going to get some major screen time in the next ep. Can’t have too much Khandi Alexander.

  45. racymind permalink
    April 17, 2010 6:40 pm

    Hey, according to the Treme website, Lambreaux has been in Houston since the storm. Probably knocked his sensibilities off a little . Cut him some slack.

  46. April 17, 2010 8:10 pm

    The same percentage of male stoner DJ’s that I know. The Daily Dish is doing a series on this very topic.

    Bottom line, I know folks who party hard, regardless of gender. I know folks who party soft, regardless of gender.

  47. April 17, 2010 8:15 pm

    Ray, the “rear view” contention is fueled by a wealth of screen time for the former, and a dearth of screen time for the latter. I’m all for equality. 😀

  48. April 17, 2010 8:46 pm

    I’m all for the slow-motion button on my remote control. ;p

  49. April 18, 2010 6:31 am

    Damn shiftless musicians. He pays 181 dates a year and calls that working.

  50. April 18, 2010 7:59 am

    Wish I had me a plateful of Austin Leslie’s fried chicken right now. I did see that. Nice homage.
    About Kim Dickens’ ass, yes Ray you are a pig and so am I. So, we’re sorta even there.

  51. April 18, 2010 11:08 am

    I’ve seen two Indian chiefs talk to each other solely, encountering really early on Mardi Gras day, challenging and negotiating who has the right of way on the street — these days more ritualized than humbugging.

    It was special to see these two Big Chiefs doing this this this — thing, that is theirs. No one around except their own boys.

  52. April 18, 2010 12:57 pm

    The male characters have their lesser moments maybe, but did you see the way restaurateur Janette Desautel just drank that expensive wine right off the bottle! I see this as a sure sign she shall slip into a downward spiral of decadence and wind up selling weenies from a weenie-shaped cart on Bourbon Street.

  53. April 18, 2010 1:55 pm

    Racy, what the hell else could she do? Too early for dinner to serve it. Can’t just run ’round offering people an opened $350 bottle of red, as it’s tres tres gauche. 😛

    You pour some on the street as an offering to whatever gods your “friend with benefits” may have offended (which is probably a pretty large number) and then you save it for yourself and lock up your wine fridge/cellar.

  54. April 18, 2010 1:57 pm

    She could drizzle some on a Hubig’s.

  55. April 18, 2010 2:03 pm

    Racy – I don’t know if the directors are setting up some sort of alcohol fueled descent on the part of Desautel, but I’ve seen similar behavior occur in more than one restaurant (and I’m not restricting that description to New Orleans restaurants, either).

    Incidence of self-destructive behaviors are often found in the restuarant and service industry, and in my experience, the proportion is significantly higher than most other employment demographics. This is why Anthony Bourdain refers to owning your own restaurant as being captain of your own pirate ship.

  56. April 18, 2010 2:08 pm

    The other one who has some good tales about that kind of behavior is Jason Sheehan. Love his “Cooking Dirty” for that.

    And damn, a good wine on a Hubig’s? Maybe in some sort of a sweet reduction atop it…let the test kitchens “allez cuisine” on that some.

  57. April 18, 2010 2:43 pm

    Anyone who thinks music performance isn’t real work probably hasn’t ever tried to play a gig or put on a show. It may look like a party to the untrained eye, but that’s a part of the illusion that sells.

  58. Jazzy permalink
    April 26, 2010 12:26 am

    I enjoyed the character of Robinette as well – something very genuine about him – it’s funny how a character with a relatively small role can make you take notice – I look forward to seeing more of him too!


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